Recently we exchanged and shot each others weapon, I have a Taurus LCP 380. Id limit my search to guns rated north of 6.0 on my surveyand Id stay far away from the below-average offerings from Jimenez, Boberg, NAA, MasterPiece, etc. For instance, I have owned 4 lcps and the pico will run circles around them. Apparently their readership likes Sigs with large sample sizes. The Ruger LCP II, released by Ruger at the end of 2016, sought to remedy many of those downsides. Great little pistol. It is considerably lighter and smoother than the original LCP and other comparable .380 pistols, and it also features the Glock-style bladed safety that must first be depressed in order for the trigger to be pulled. Maybe so few were sold they didnt make the list. The gun works incredibly well if you use the recommend FMJ ammo as listed in the manual. He didnt even require them to be positive. The cobra looks very similar to a firearm my mother owns. .380 pocket pistols are incredibly easy to conceal, and this is what is largely attributed to their long time popularity in the United States. I was thinking the same thing as I read this article. If its good Ill spread the word. BTW except for the cobra all these little guns got good reviews at various timesFWIW. What utter nonsense! Probably have about 2500 rounds through it. Oh not to mention Sccy has great So, pocket guns being inherently hard to shoot and prone to limp wristing will experience failures. the fact you just dont like it? The trigger seem to be the trouble people have with it. That thing is a freaking beast of a gun in terms of durability (yes, I have seen torture tests of it). Everything they make are just wrought with problems. I would buy one if I needed another inexpensive backup carry gun. Anyway, all just my opinion here. But despite those advantages, .380 pocket pistols have also been plagued by a number of downsides. On the plus side, the SCCY has a lighter trigger than the Kel-Tec P11 (which may explain the problem), but the P11 always goes bang. So the recoil is stout. My son made sure I carried a SW9VE for daily use. I carry in the front pocket and have trouble with the stupid buttons that accidentally release the mag. Hellcat 380. around $219 plus S&H and ffl fees. SuccySuckeySuckySucySukyNope. First of all I do have the Kahr and like the gun very much. (I call the SCCY, my Sunday go-to-meeting piece. I use the site SlickGuns a lot to shop for deals and they ran into the same problem with upvotes and downvotes people vote something down just because they wouldnt personally buy it makes no difference if it is a good deal, good product, etc. For those of you looking specifically for a concealed carry pistol, hold off on buying a Glock just yet. Votes on the best or worst of anything are all based on personal experience or having an ax to grind. Still, if youre looking for a all purpose value like pistol then look no further (hesk Ive seen them for $200 NIB out the doorAnd yes, Kel-Tec got copied yet again! All semi auto weapons will jam at one time or another, and dont feel the same in everyones hand.. I was also surprised to find the CM40 rated so poorly. Suprised about the Kahr, Beretta, and Diamondback. Also it would be great to know if the people voting own the guns they are rating and/or if they have ever shot them. Most of the post are from newbies that know very little about guns in the first place. A bunch. Man, all I can say is when you mentioned the Pico, you sure messed up on that one. Sure, I can see how many people liked or didnt like a firearm, but more important than that is the REASON they voted the way they did. Of course the gun was the new upgraded model. I trust my Hellcat 380 as much as I do my S & W 39, but I prefer a tight revolver over any semi-auto when my life depends on it. Anyone have the Bersa .380. Im in the habit of buying less costly weapons and fully expect to tinker a bit with them to produce a smooth running hot brass pile maker. Otherwise, their opinion may mean nothing. Those were the worst. No thanks. The guy did a service to the gun community by creating this website and writing a cautionary article, and some assholes gotta focus on the self-promotion. If there is what looks like an empty hole its uncocked. Lol, a very nice DAO, the new Gen is much lighter. Sold it and picked up an LCP off a friend for $150. The Picos have a huge fan base. The design was intended to produce more accuracy while only sacrificing marginal power. Do they now have 12 round mags? Unfortunately, each of these pistols and others in their class suffer from a number of serious flaws. I dont care for the finger grooves, the chunky feel, or the bullets rattling in the magazine when they arent stacked just right. How so? Regardless of your take on user ratings, I think you can safely ignore the bottom six guns and not worry about missing out on much. Given how clannish and brand-loyal a lot of gunners are, it wouldnt shock me if about half the votes against the SCCY were cast because it wasnt a Glock 43, or something equally biased and stupid. The PPK established a defining influence on the design of concealed carry firearms. They are kind of like the Nancy Pelosis in the outdoor industry. A lot of those people who diss these guns are those that run hollowpoints or high pressure rounds. Take down the Pico. I have a SCCY too. I shot the cpx-1 and the cpx-2and never had a problem with either. Zero malfunctions in 300 rounds including pocket lint coverings. This is NOT a target gun. The Pico is a great gun. Had it for about 6 months now and been to the range several times. In contrast to this, the original LCP did not lock back on the final round. WebBest 9mm Concealed Carry (CCW) Pistol - SIG Sauer P365. Do not yank the magazine friends. WebMAC Website & PrimaryArms website link: http://www.militaryarms.orgJoin Patreon and support MAC! Anonymous reviews should be taken VERY suspiciouslyof all product, not just guns. http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg. Ive owned a CPX 2 for about a year and we shoot every weekend. Bodyguard were well rated. In the case of the SCCY they are worth it. Now I feel like I have t fire the XDS 9MM again before I trust it, Really shook me up when I casually pressed the trigger and got a light clunk. I broke the firing pin on the first day. Its a sharp designed pistol with a great price . Three weeks before it was even released. then hold slide to the rear for 1 second before you hear things fall into place? Standing out as one of the smallest on this list, Kahr isnt a Not any more fun to shoot, but at least I dont need a damned pencil to take spent brass out of it. Theyve reportedly improved it in newer model LCPs. To quote his expertise is laughable. Im generally a fan of .40, though it does have a bit of a signature snap. But with the right technique and practice, its fine. Beretta did a fine job on the Pocket Pistol. So Ill pass on the herd mentality when buying guns thanks.. The sccy is a great budget pistol. I happen to own a SCCY and have never ever had a FTF or FTE its a very light and compact gun in a 9mm platform with 11 rounds There are many more maligned pocket guns and sub-compacts on the market than these two. Modular design, one of the easiest take downs in the history of guns, fantastic sights, easy to put on night sights without going to a Gun Smith. Ive seen tons of positive reviews of the CPX2. the problem with your rating site is that it is seriously flawed. This article by Alex Joseph originally appeared at Gun News Daily in 2019. Have you put more than a box through it? My hands are simply too large for the tiny Ruger. I found that many mags for the Hellcat where not cut properly with too much play at the catch. Sleek design, totally snag proof. I have seen this kind of nonsense before but did not expect to see it here. As in best gun LOL. This is what I really hate about stories like the one posted. Jed Henson runs the handgun review and rating site gunsgunsguns.net. My advice. For this purpose, I actually switched to an NAA pug. The biggest improvement, by far, is the trigger pull. The warranty cant be beat. And that considering the Kahr is a fine gun. Its tight, even well after break-in. I love my CPX-1. TTAG has some of the worst reviewers in history. It works great if all it does is sit in your pocket. As long as you shoot the recommended ammo and keep your weapon cleaned, oiled properly, and replace any defective parts you will get much better performance. Empties wouldnt just fail to clear the slide; theyd never leave the chamber. Their guns get copied because George Kelgren never copyrighted the designs. It is not made for quick magazine changes. You must not even be able to read. But thats just me Not everyone places as much weight on user ratings as I do. Not cheap, but beautifully crafted. Stainless STEEL barrel, CHASSIS, best sights made on a pocket gun, Magazines that look like Custume 1911, all stainless steel with even a Steel follower. I dont expect any pocket gun to be pleasant to shoot, but I ditched my Hellcat after experiencing multiple failures to eject two types of ammo. The Pico is built like a tank. The only thing about that bill is that allows those in a govt approved marksmenship program to buy them first. You fire as soon as you pull and have aimed. To each his own . All run like sewing machines. Or having the mag cleaned and inspected? But again, the people have spoken: the Pico sucks. Not sure why the Sccy is on this list, I own a cpx2 and its great! So special, they ride the short bus. Sorry, but NOT my Kahr. The take down lever is actually easy to use once get use to it. TTAG is the Roseanne Barr of reviews. If you have to rely on Counter Clerks for advice on firearms tells me quite a bit. Pick up a Taurus 738 tcp and it is super snappy vs the cw380. We saw your review and write up. . How is this journalisim? I love this gun for the price, and just because its not made by Glock means nothing to me. The trigger is exactly like a double action revolver. Forget about dropping the mag with the shooting hand, cause it aint happening. Also LCP. Oh, it fits my hand great too. Note to self, Get to the range! Only drawback is the 2D trigger. I would very much like to see your proof/examples. After each guns name, youll see its average user rating, that ratings margin of error and the number of votes: 1) Diamondback Firearms DB380 (4.3 stars 1.0, 25 votes). The slide has the most ineffective grooves Ive ever felt. The LCP II also features forward and rear serrations on the slide, whereas the original LCP only featured serrations on the rear. How is it possibly at the top of the list? It shoots all varieties of .380 ammo Ive ever run through it. After this 1911 bill gets passed, Ill be carrying a 1911. I just went through your site and clicked a one star on every gun over $500 and a 10 star on every gun under $500 with my only basis being I dont currently have an expendable $500 in my pocket and I dont like them because they are out of my budget Just kidding, I didnt, but anyone out there could do it, which is why I think your system is incredibly flawed by not at least holding reviewers to having to list a reason. But that is just learning curve and a trade off when they removed the problematic safety from the earlier models. My dad bought a CPX-whichever has the safety about a month ago; Ill have to ask him what he thinks of it next time we talk. Ruger LCP Max 2. I have a brand new Cobra that has never fired a shot ! Can't argue with Sig, but I'd also add Beretta to that list, both the Wisdom of the crowd is an awfully unknown thing to be making life-and-death decisions on. What really won me over was the quality and operation, even on the bargain CM. Uh no. My Airweight has been dehorned and edges softened, carries so comfortably with a Hip Grip that I often forget about it. Was definitely surprised that certain other brands didnt make the list. http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. Accurate for cheap junk. Bought it brand new. Id trust actual reviewers over internet voters. Nope. The list is pretty laughable, though, because drawing conclusions from such a tiny sample of unvetted ratings is deeply, deeply flawed. So there. The gun design has never worked well . No sights (Stick it up their nose and pull the trigger). The grip is also slightly enlarged in order to get a better grip, with an improved stippling job as well to better accommodate wet or slippery conditions. I love mine(CPX 2,no safety) Best carry gun for your dollar bar none. Happy ending. The Pico is top notch. Well, yes, Gigli did suck, but that wasnt known until later. Well, Taurus only makes one gun that really meets the pocket pistol criteria set forth in the article. Ive been fortunate enough to be able to shoot a big variety of different .380s. The best one, so far, that I have shot with the least amount of re Personally, I only go by in person reviews, in this internet age, from people proven trustworthy. Kahr makes a lot of pocket guns, and several of them rate really well. No problem with the SCCY at all. To send it back would cost to much and the internet dealer would not stand behind it !! I assume the reason the CM40 sucks is similar. (I like Glocks, but between the trigger and the slimness of the Kahr, Im a convert) My least favorite aspect of the CM40, aside from the revolver-like capacity, is the stiffness of the slide spring. And of course, they criticize all the brands that dont advertise with them. Also people need to fire them at the range. This list would have been more valid if it had included the KIMBER SOLO, This website is better than the comedy channel. It came back still not fixed. This crowdsourced data points arent perfect, but if a product gets a statistically significant number of votes, we get a pretty good idea of how it stacks up thanks to the wisdom-of-crowds phenomenon. The muzzle blast can be quite impressive and women should definitely fire their guns at the range. I think you would be hard pressed to find any thing this good for that price. For their size they are accurate but these are not range guns (especially the CM40). they do have a 200 round break in that they tell you to expect possible fails also. It shoots a powerful pistol cartridge in a light gun. There is a reason why this is Berettas top Pocket gun. Anything In the Ring of Fire Family. Just like Fords. The stats of the survey may need to be expanded on as well but for the most part would not own any of the others either, just my opinion. WebThe Roughneck series of derringers are similar in appearance to the well-known Bond Arms Backup models, but are more affordable. I wouldnt go smaller than a Glock 27 in .40 the recoil is too snappy. My NAA .380 ACP with Novak 3 dot night sights has been 100% reliable with every ammo tried and as accurate as I am. (Including the book he wrote about how to cheat Amazon buyers by faking reviews.). IO stopped making them and moved to Florida. They never protected their early designs/. A recoil spring system that not only sucks, but lends the thing to have constant and regular jams and FTF and FTEs. According to our peers, here are the six worst pocketguns, from less awful to worstest. No gun, none, should have a mag release that is that stiff and impossible to use fast and effectively, especially in a carry gun none the less. So I returned it to them, they replaced several worn parts and returned it. Thank-you. One now has over 4,000 rounds of flawless ammo down range the other now over 1500 and have never broken a firing pin. I have several friends who own Picos and swear by them. He says the trigger is horrible? The trigger pull on most .380 autos is exceptionally long and gritty. Shooting (And Finally Breaking) the SCCY CPX-2: http://youtu.be/YzYm_CqMZG8. The trigger is about smooth and deliberate. Im about to order some more. Got the Hellcat thrown in when I bought another gun. Nonetheless, it still suffers from many of the issues that we just talked about in the previous section: the trigger pull is awful, they are difficult to shoot, it can be difficult to get a good grip on the pistol for some shooters, and the slide wont even lock back on the last round fired. I am no statistician but most of the sample sizes were very small. But with 99 votes in, the math is clear: the CPX-2 stinks. None. I bought it after reading the review on TTAG. Thats along what I was thinking. 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